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		<title>Comment on Is it wrong for PRs to contact journos by phone these days? by paul rayment</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/tech-media/is-it-wrong-for-technology-pr-agencies-to-contact-journos-by-phone-these-days/comment-page-1#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>paul rayment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I come from a sales background (fair while ago) and have never had a problem with the phone but know some PROs that are terrified of it, especially at the start.

The point should that you treat journos different depending on what they like. I&#039;ve managed to sell in a story on Twitter before but that&#039;s because the journo liked Twitter and it was a story I knew would be good for them. You will fail A LOT at selling in a story by phone/email/social if it isn&#039;t right for them so I try and find out as much about them as possible, sometimes by phone before any pitch.

I&#039;d never say don&#039;t phone. I had one instance where a journo had disregarded the story due to space in the magazine but I managed to talk her in to uploading it online while I was on the phone to her. If I hadn&#039;t called it would have got nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I come from a sales background (fair while ago) and have never had a problem with the phone but know some PROs that are terrified of it, especially at the start.</p>
<p>The point should that you treat journos different depending on what they like. I&#8217;ve managed to sell in a story on Twitter before but that&#8217;s because the journo liked Twitter and it was a story I knew would be good for them. You will fail A LOT at selling in a story by phone/email/social if it isn&#8217;t right for them so I try and find out as much about them as possible, sometimes by phone before any pitch.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d never say don&#8217;t phone. I had one instance where a journo had disregarded the story due to space in the magazine but I managed to talk her in to uploading it online while I was on the phone to her. If I hadn&#8217;t called it would have got nothing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on PR agencies shouldn&#8217;t forget podcasters by paul rayment</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/social-media/technology-pr-agencies-shouldnt-forget-podcasters/comment-page-1#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>paul rayment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Podcast figs are so hard to use. I download a lot of podcasts but maybe only listen to half of them, maybe less.

Until there is more transparency it will be hard to fit podcasts in to plans alongside press/broardcast/online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Podcast figs are so hard to use. I download a lot of podcasts but maybe only listen to half of them, maybe less.</p>
<p>Until there is more transparency it will be hard to fit podcasts in to plans alongside press/broardcast/online.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ten tips to help flush your tech PR career down the pan by Chris Measures</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/pr-failure/ten-tips-to-help-flush-your-technology-pr-agency-career-down-the-pan/comment-page-1#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Measures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised Steve didn&#039;t add &#039;Fail to do your timesheets&#039; as number 11.

I&#039;d add spend your whole day in client meetings that achieve nothing but burn time nicely from the retainer.............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised Steve didn&#8217;t add &#8216;Fail to do your timesheets&#8217; as number 11.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add spend your whole day in client meetings that achieve nothing but burn time nicely from the retainer&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ten tips to help flush your tech PR career down the pan by Steve Earl</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/pr-failure/ten-tips-to-help-flush-your-technology-pr-agency-career-down-the-pan/comment-page-1#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11. Treat the poor apostrophe with utter contempt, giving all around you the impression that you did not attend a single English lesson during your schooling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11. Treat the poor apostrophe with utter contempt, giving all around you the impression that you did not attend a single English lesson during your schooling.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top ten most over-used tech PR stories by Uday</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/technology-pr/top-ten-most-used-technology-pr-agency-stories/comment-page-1#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Uday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep - I almost did that this year, but thought it just wouldn&#039;t work.  But surprisingly I&#039;ve seen it covered again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; I almost did that this year, but thought it just wouldn&#8217;t work.  But surprisingly I&#8217;ve seen it covered again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top ten most over-used tech PR stories by Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/technology-pr/top-ten-most-used-technology-pr-agency-stories/comment-page-1#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about - &quot;World cup (or insert any other major sporting event) could cause chaos for company networks as employees log on to watch..blah, blah..&quot;.  I did this one about four years ago for the cricket and it was pretty old hat then.  Still doing the rounds though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about &#8211; &#8220;World cup (or insert any other major sporting event) could cause chaos for company networks as employees log on to watch..blah, blah..&#8221;.  I did this one about four years ago for the cricket and it was pretty old hat then.  Still doing the rounds though!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tracking backlinks from your PR campaigns by Uday</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/seo/tracking-backlinks-from-your-pr-campaigns/comment-page-1#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Uday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pilar

Thanks for getting in touch Pilar.  I&#039;m afraid I haven&#039;t used Scrapebox or anything similar.  We tend to focus on building quality links by selectively commenting on relevant blogs and sending news announcements to major media news sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pilar</p>
<p>Thanks for getting in touch Pilar.  I&#8217;m afraid I haven&#8217;t used Scrapebox or anything similar.  We tend to focus on building quality links by selectively commenting on relevant blogs and sending news announcements to major media news sites.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tracking backlinks from your PR campaigns by Pilar Baden</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/seo/tracking-backlinks-from-your-pr-campaigns/comment-page-1#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Pilar Baden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello just came across your site and i thank you for your article it was interesting. I am curious about doing link building for my website too. Have you used the scrapebox.com program? If so is it good? If not then what is the best program? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello just came across your site and i thank you for your article it was interesting. I am curious about doing link building for my website too. Have you used the scrapebox.com program? If so is it good? If not then what is the best program? Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gartner sued over Magic Q dispute by Rob Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.cloudninepr.com/analyst-relations/gartner-sued-over-magic-q-dispute/comment-page-1#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

On December 4, 2009, ZL Technologies filed an amended complaint against Gartner, Inc. in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. The Court granted ZL the opportunity to clarify and augment our earlier allegations of defamation and trade libel.

In the first round of ZL’s legal dispute with Gartner, Gartner argued to the Court that its rankings and other statements in the proprietary “Magic Quadrant Reports” are merely opinions that are not based upon fact, and that they are understood as such by the readers of those reports. However, Gartner’s past statements in marketing materials, white papers, blogs and even the Magic Quadrant Reports themselves, assert that their research and analysts’ opinions are based on a body of facts compiled through what is asserted to be a rigorous process.

The amended complaint clarifies ZL’s contentions about the inaccuracy of Gartner’s reports, the inherent conflict of interest arising out of Gartner’s voluminous business with the vendors it reviews, and its subsequent bias towards large and established vendors. The amended complaint also adds new detail about Gartner’s repeated claims that its research is based on objective fact—a position exactly opposite to the stance forwarded by Gartner in court.

While this case is focused on ZL’s dispute with Gartner over the erroneous statements in Gartner’s publications, the issues here also implicate Gartner’s larger business model. Gartner plainly admits that it attempts to leverage value from its largest clients, many of whom are also vendors covered in the company’s research. ZL’s legal filings describe how that business model causes Gartner to favor those large companies at the expense of identifying the best technologies, thus misleading not just the vendors who are inaccurately reviewed by Gartner, but the consumers who base their IT purchasing decisions on Gartner’s biased research.

ZL is seeking injunctive relief as well as compensatory and punitive damages from Gartner.

The amended complaint can be found here: http://www.zlti.com/courtdocs/docs/First_Amended_Complaint.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>On December 4, 2009, ZL Technologies filed an amended complaint against Gartner, Inc. in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California. The Court granted ZL the opportunity to clarify and augment our earlier allegations of defamation and trade libel.</p>
<p>In the first round of ZL’s legal dispute with Gartner, Gartner argued to the Court that its rankings and other statements in the proprietary “Magic Quadrant Reports” are merely opinions that are not based upon fact, and that they are understood as such by the readers of those reports. However, Gartner’s past statements in marketing materials, white papers, blogs and even the Magic Quadrant Reports themselves, assert that their research and analysts’ opinions are based on a body of facts compiled through what is asserted to be a rigorous process.</p>
<p>The amended complaint clarifies ZL’s contentions about the inaccuracy of Gartner’s reports, the inherent conflict of interest arising out of Gartner’s voluminous business with the vendors it reviews, and its subsequent bias towards large and established vendors. The amended complaint also adds new detail about Gartner’s repeated claims that its research is based on objective fact—a position exactly opposite to the stance forwarded by Gartner in court.</p>
<p>While this case is focused on ZL’s dispute with Gartner over the erroneous statements in Gartner’s publications, the issues here also implicate Gartner’s larger business model. Gartner plainly admits that it attempts to leverage value from its largest clients, many of whom are also vendors covered in the company’s research. ZL’s legal filings describe how that business model causes Gartner to favor those large companies at the expense of identifying the best technologies, thus misleading not just the vendors who are inaccurately reviewed by Gartner, but the consumers who base their IT purchasing decisions on Gartner’s biased research.</p>
<p>ZL is seeking injunctive relief as well as compensatory and punitive damages from Gartner.</p>
<p>The amended complaint can be found here: <a href="http://www.zlti.com/courtdocs/docs/First_Amended_Complaint.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.zlti.com/courtdocs/docs/First_Amended_Complaint.pdf</a></p>
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